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so, what is Ichigo exactly?? Is he a Shinigami, Hollow, or a Quincy? Or all of the above?

    • I believe that he's a shinigami/quincy hybrid with hollow powers. From the start of the series, Ichigo was made a substitute shinigami. Then, we find out that Isshin is a former shinigami captain of the 13 court guard squad in episode 111, where Grand Fisher also mentions that Ichigo is a true, which we still don't know what that means. Next in episode 296 Aizen mentions that Ichigo is a human and a .... Isshin interupts before Aizen saids anymore. In episode 59, Ichigo's hollow powers awakens, which he learns to control in episodes 123-125. And now, we find out that Masaki, Ichigo's mom, was a quincy. However, we still don't know if Ichigo's inner Hollow and Zangetsu are still one being. In episode 309, they both disappearred after Ichigo used the Final Getsuga Tenshō. But Zangetsu was restored when Ichigo got his powers back in episode 361. So he's inner Hollow returning is a complete mystery at this point, but yeah. I believe when you think about it, Ichigo is a shinigami/quincy hybrid with hollow powers, if he still has his inner hollow powers.

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    • i do teh same question ^^ Thread:69435 i think is a shinigami quincy ibrid

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    • Thank you Meg2541. That helped a lot

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    • I'll say here as I have said elsewhere. Ichigo is not a shinigami. Nimaiya said this' Isshin said this. Ichigo is a human. His mother was a human, his father was a soul with no shinigami powers residing in a gigai at the time of his conception. This makes him a human who when out of his body is a shinigami

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    • what?!?!?! that doesnt make any sense at all

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    • What doesn't make sense? This is the truth and was stated in the series so if you do not understand then say what you are confused about and I will explain

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    • Isshin stated that Ichigo wasn't a Shinigami. Because, when Ichigo was conceived, Isshin didn't have his powers at the time, so Isshin couldn't pass on any Shinigami powers to Ichigo. Ichigo's mother was a human, which makes Ichigo human. However, since Masaki was also a Quincy, Ichigo is also considered to be half-Quincy

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    • Thanks for clearing that up Kamikaze839

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    • Even in episode 19 Zangetsu stated that Ichigo has shinigami powers.

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    • Having Shinigami powers is different from being a Shinigami, though

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    • Per Kami. He has shinigami powers but he is not a shinigami. His soul form is but he is not a shinigami quincy hybrid as some seem to believe

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    • Seems like Ichigo(IchigoKurosaki1577) can't comprehend the truth Aizen-sama.

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    • Oh, i can actually handle the truth, no matter what. Don't make up things that are absolutely false and not right.Hey SenNoKuroiHonoo, shut up and keep your thoughts to yourself.

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    • IchigoKurosaki1577 wrote: Oh, i can actually handle the truth, no matter what. Don't make up things that are absolutely false and not right.Hey SenNoKuroiHonoo, shut up and keep your thoughts to yourself.

      That was intended as a joke as Aizen once stated that Ichigo can't comprehend the truth. If that reply insulted you in any way, I beg your pardon Kurosaki-san.

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    • Well, don't ever do that again, that offended me a lot.

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    • According to the wikis, Ichigo is a human with high spiritual pressure. His father is a shinigami, making him one. Ichigo's mother is a full quincy, so therefore Ichigo is. ichigo is a visored, though on Ichigo's page it doesn't say Ichigo is a visored. But, on the visored page, Ichigo is a member of the Visoreds.

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    • He is a hollow, or one of the Visored. The visord also have hollow masks, just saying...

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    • Tōshirō Hitsugaya-kun wrote: According to the wikis, Ichigo is a human with high spiritual pressure. His father is a shinigami, making him one. Ichigo's mother is a full quincy, so therefore Ichigo is. ichigo is a visored, though on Ichigo's page it doesn't say Ichigo is a visored. But, on the visored page, Ichigo is a member of the Visoreds.

      This was going on for ages but Ichigo is diclosed as a Human. Not Shinigami, only Quincy. Now why not list him as a Quincy? Quincy is a human medium. Humans with high spiritual pressure and spiritual awareness. Why not Shinigami? When Ichigo was conceived by Masaki approximately 16 years ago, Isshin lost his Shinigami powers. Ichigo only became a Shinigami when Rukia Kuchiki converted him into one making him Substitute Shinigami. Now why not a Visored? Because Ichigo is Quincy in Human form, and he's Shinigami in soul/spirit form. Makes sense? The member of Visored thing will kick in when he enters his soul/spirit form. Oh, he's also a former Fullbringer. FORMER.

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    • Maybe you need to break it down into Ichigo's physical body and his soul?

      1. Humans and Quincy both are born into mortal bodies with traits inherited from their biological mothers and fathers, while Shinigami and Hollows only exist as souls.

      2. Fullbringers are Humans whose biological mothers were attacked by Hollows and in the process were forced to absorb part of those Hollows' powers. As a result the powers passed on to their children.

      3. Since their physiology allow Humans to reproduce with Quincy (mixed blood), then maybe Quincy are Humans with a gene mutation; giving them special powers?

      4. So based on that: Physiologically Ichigo is Human, with the Quincy gene mutation, while his soul has absorbed both Shinigami powers from Isshin and Hollow powers from Masaki.

      (Btw. Did I just compare Quincy to X-men? O.o - That would make Ichigo=Wolverine and Yhwach=Magneto ^^)

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    • Ichigo has Soul Reaper powers, but isn't a real Soul Reaper... apparently it's just because Nimaya's Asauchi reject him. I still find it hard to believe that that's enough to make the difference, so in my book Ichigo is still a true Soul Reaper.

      Then, he manifested an inner Hollow. Initially it looked like the Sattered Shaft training caused it to appear, but now it seems that Masaki's Hollowfication could be the real factor. If my hunch is correct, then it is also the source of Ichigo's Fullbring. But Ginjo stole it from him, so Ichigo doesn't have it anymore. Although, I believe that he can regain it with proper training, but I don't see the need.

      And at last, there are Quincy powers, inherited from Masaki. Taking everything above into account, Ichigo is a human who has Soul Reaper, Hollow and Quincy powers, which come from both of his parents.

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    • To clarify, Ichigo is a Human, part-Quincy, with Shinigami abilities. He once possessed Fullbring and Hollow abilities, but those have both since become inactive for one reason or another. He is not a Shinigami.

      For full disclosure, Quincies and Fullbringers are not their own species; both are simply different varieties of Human.

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    • His human power is his Fullbring. his Soul powers comes from a sharing of alot of other shinigami, his hallow form had reach its last form, and became 1 with his shinigami/zangetsu but then lost them both after he used his final zangetsu. so i think he have to train and learn how to use/achieve his Quincy power/weapon. so basically i think he only have a unknowen shinigami with no hallow mask... ( so sad ) and have Quincy blood all that combind with his fullbring

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    • and i think his soul purpose had changed. he normal have a purpose to save others but now i think its to live or something like that xD like his zanpakto wanted for him befor it learnd him his final zangetsu. i dont know... lets read and learn ^^


      Or maybe his a new race xD

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    • Anyone else notice that both Quincy's and Fullbring use items they hold dear to themselve?. Like Quincy's having their crosses and Fullbring using their necklace / watch / shinigami badge. Hence Ichigo was able to get Fullbring to its max so fast instead of training for years. And ichigo didn't loose his Fullbring powers when that dude stabbed him.

      Like Rukia said, He would never be able to steal his entire power of Fullbring/Shinigami powers in a million years. His shinigami powers merged with the Fullbring, Hence he looked diffrent when Rukia gave him the power boost. ( With the Tattoo's over his body marking with x's "xecution") And still was obviously stronger then the dude that stole his power.

      And Ichigo had shinigami powers of his own, Rukia only awakened the power due to absorbing all of her power. She only wanted to give 50% of her power But since his shinigami power merged with the hollow inside him (hollow,provided by his mother) he needed more power then only the 50% so it took all of it. Atleast that is what i think of this, and since an shinigami is an entire other being, powerless or not. Shinigami is shinigami. So Ichigo is a shinigami with hybrid Quincy - Shinigami/hollow powers. ( Shinigami that loose their power, can get the powers back like ichigo steadily did by fighting and other stuff )

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    • I'm pretty sure being a Shinigami is a profession and not a race. So I'd say he's a Human/Quincy with Shinigami powers (and Hollow if he still has them). But still, considering Isshin is a Soul, I wonder if that affects the race Ichigo could be, since Souls are considered people who are passed on or just simply a spirit. Strange...

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    • Regular souls do not become Shinigami. only the ones with spirit power, or atleast a tiny amount to use kido and such are able to become Shinigami. Hence the whole Rukon district and Soul society being apart from one another. everything is explained in the anime, and its not rather an profession persé but a life choice they make. to protect one and others.

      But ichigo still has his hollow powers, atleast from what i've read so far. since zangetsu merged with the hollow. originally his inner selve suposed to be black or something but since the hollow merged with zangetsu he is white. though i could be wrong about the whole thing >.> .

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    • Maurice1989 wrote: But ichigo still has his hollow powers, atleast from what i've read so far. since zangetsu merged with the hollow. originally his inner selve suposed to be black or something but since the hollow merged with zangetsu he is white. though i could be wrong about the whole thing >.> .

      The Hollow Zangetsu awakened at Shattered Shaft, and has been Ichigo's true Zanpakutõ from that moment on. Ichigo's Quincy powers (the old man) awakened at the same time, and the Quincy managed to suppress the Hollow Zangetsu. The old man then pretended to be Ichigo's Zanpakutõ until Nimaiya Ouetsu saw through the deception and revealed the truth to Ichigo. However, recent chapters have shown us that Ichigo accepts both his inner Hollow and his Quincy powers as his Zanpakutõ.

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    • Ok the main argument here against ichigo being a shinigami was isshin and nimaiya saying so but after attaining a true zanpakuto and training with the royal guard, The "Chief" royal guard ichibei stated ichigo is now a true/authentic shinigami but the adminstrators deny that fact and use the isshin/nimaiya comment and their own "superior" logic to state otherwise. if we where to go strictly by race then okay ichigo and quincies are human and shinigami and hollows are just souls but do you ever see or hear anyone address a shinigami/hollow as a soul or a quincy as human? nah because whether we like it or not in bleach the type of power you wield is what identifies you before your "race"

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    • Rayzur wrote: Ok the main argument here against ichigo being a shinigami was isshin and nimaiya saying so but after attaining a true zanpakuto and training with the royal guard, The "Chief" royal guard ichibei stated ichigo is now a true/authentic shinigami but the adminstrators deny that fact and use the isshin/nimaiya comment and their own "superior" logic to state otherwise. if we where to go strictly by race then okay ichigo and quincies are human and shinigami and hollows are just souls but do you ever see or hear anyone address a shinigami/hollow as a soul or a quincy as human? nah because whether we like it or not in bleach the type of power you wield is what identifies you before your "race"

      This just isn't true. Quincies were explicitly stated to be humans. Fullbringers were too. Both Quincies and Fullbringers are living, breathing humans that just happen to have extraordinary abilities. Shinigami, on the other hand, are souls from Soul Society who have trained to use a zanpakuto and have become members of the Gotei 13. "Shinigami" is not a race, just as "Quincy" and "Fullbringer" are not races.

      This argument is fairly old at this point, but as a final means of clarification: Ichigo is a human being who possesses Quincy and Shinigami abilities. He is not a true Shinigami, because he is not an official member of the Gotei 13. He used to have Hollow abilities and Fullbring abilities, but as far as we can tell, both of those powers are gone now.

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    • Avolling wrote:

      Rayzur wrote: Ok the main argument here against ichigo being a shinigami was isshin and nimaiya saying so but after attaining a true zanpakuto and training with the royal guard, The "Chief" royal guard ichibei stated ichigo is now a true/authentic shinigami but the adminstrators deny that fact and use the isshin/nimaiya comment and their own "superior" logic to state otherwise. if we where to go strictly by race then okay ichigo and quincies are human and shinigami and hollows are just souls but do you ever see or hear anyone address a shinigami/hollow as a soul or a quincy as human? nah because whether we like it or not in bleach the type of power you wield is what identifies you before your "race"

      This just isn't true. Quincies were explicitly stated to be humans. Fullbringers were too. Both Quincies and Fullbringers are living, breathing humans that just happen to have extraordinary abilities. Shinigami, on the other hand, are souls from Soul Society who have trained to use a zanpakuto and have become members of the Gotei 13. "Shinigami" is not a race, just as "Quincy" and "Fullbringer" are not races.

      This argument is fairly old at this point, but as a final means of clarification: Ichigo is a human being who possesses Quincy and Shinigami abilities. He is not a true Shinigami, because he is not an official member of the Gotei 13. He used to have Hollow abilities and Fullbring abilities, but as far as we can tell, both of those powers are gone now.

      then why does ichibei say otherwise?

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    • Allow me to step in and state what's been established by the manga:

      Ichigo is part-Quincy because his mother was an Echt Quincy and his father was Human at the time he was conceived.

      Ichigo has Shinigami powers inherited from his father.

      He also has an inner Hollow inherited from his mother that fused with his Shinigami powers to become one source of power - he cannot draw on one alone.

      He has, as of right now, latent Quincy powers in that the manifestation of his powers is the one who activated them, not Ichigo himself.

      To sum it up, Ichigo is a part-Quincy Human with Shinigami and Hollow powers. Shinigami is not a race, and Ichigo most certainly isn't part-Hollow: he just has an inner one that gives him access to Hollow abilities (though only when it takes over his body, as of yet).

      However, Ichibei did indeed state Ichigo has become a true Shinigami. This does not change his race; rather, Ichibei is acknowledging that Ichigo has grown enough temperament-wise to be considered a real Shinigami and not just a Substitute one.

      So, to sum it up, Ichigo is a Human (as stated by himself, his father, and Nimaiya) with latent Quincy powers, currently accessible Shinigami powers, and an inner Hollow that has merged with his Shinigami powers to produce a unique entity.

      Bottom line, he's a part-Quincy Human with the powers of two races and one profession.

      Hope that helps.

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    • Xilinoc wrote: Allow me to step in and state what's been established by the manga:

      Ichigo is part-Quincy because his mother was an Echt Quincy and his father was Human at the time he was conceived.

      Ichigo has Shinigami powers inherited from his father.

      He also has an inner Hollow inherited from his mother that fused with his Shinigami powers to become one source of power - he cannot draw on one alone.

      He has, as of right now, latent Quincy powers in that the manifestation of his powers is the one who activated them, not Ichigo himself.

      To sum it up, Ichigo is a part-Quincy Human with Shinigami and Hollow powers. Shinigami is not a race, and Ichigo most certainly isn't part-Hollow: he just has an inner one that gives him access to Hollow abilities (though only when it takes over his body, as of yet).

      However, Ichibei did indeed state Ichigo has become a true Shinigami. This does not change his race; rather, Ichibei is acknowledging that Ichigo has grown enough temperament-wise to be considered a real Shinigami and not just a Substitute one.

      So, to sum it up, Ichigo is a Human (as stated by himself, his father, and Nimaiya) with latent Quincy powers, currently accessible Shinigami powers, and an inner Hollow that has merged with his Shinigami powers to produce a unique entity.

      Bottom line, he's a part-Quincy Human with the powers of two races and one profession.

      Hope that helps.

      This is the best answer in this entire thread.

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    • Xilinoc wrote: Allow me to step in and state what's been established by the manga:

      Ichigo is part-Quincy because his mother was an Echt Quincy and his father was Human at the time he was conceived.

      Ichigo has Shinigami powers inherited from his father.

      He also has an inner Hollow inherited from his mother that fused with his Shinigami powers to become one source of power - he cannot draw on one alone.

      He has, as of right now, latent Quincy powers in that the manifestation of his powers is the one who activated them, not Ichigo himself.

      To sum it up, Ichigo is a part-Quincy Human with Shinigami and Hollow powers. Shinigami is not a race, and Ichigo most certainly isn't part-Hollow: he just has an inner one that gives him access to Hollow abilities (though only when it takes over his body, as of yet).

      However, Ichibei did indeed state Ichigo has become a true Shinigami. This does not change his race; rather, Ichibei is acknowledging that Ichigo has grown enough temperament-wise to be considered a real Shinigami and not just a Substitute one.

      So, to sum it up, Ichigo is a Human (as stated by himself, his father, and Nimaiya) with latent Quincy powers, currently accessible Shinigami powers, and an inner Hollow that has merged with his Shinigami powers to produce a unique entity.

      Bottom line, he's a part-Quincy Human with the powers of two races and one profession.

      Hope that helps.

      I do agree. Quincy and Shinigami have always been a title not a race so yes ichigo is human because there is only 2 races i.e. humans and souls but he can be identified as a shinigami because its his profession and also a Quincy once he begins actively using his quincy powers. As a always say in bleach a character is identified by profession and powers rather than just race.

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    • I also suggesting that under race in info box it is strictly kept as either HUMAN or SOUL but i am confused with HOLLOWS and ARRANCARS cause the names lean more to race than titles as compared to SHINIGAMI and QUINCIES.

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    • Erm...Quincies ARE a race unto themselves. They have bloodlines that grant them powers, it's not something that a regular old Human can become through training, unlike Souls and Shinigami.

      And Shinigami have "Soul" as their race because Shinigami is a profession, which is why Ichigo can be identified as a true one, though he's not dead.

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    • So fullbringers too are a separate race?

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    • These quotes are from Wikipedia:

      "Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, in the 17th century, people began to use the term to relate to observable physical traits."

      "While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive or simplistic way, and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens."

      I think we all agree that both Quincy and Fullbringers belong to the Human species, while alive at least, after death they become either Souls or Hollows. The defenition of a Race of Humans, however, is built on a rather loose and uncertain concept, and should perhaps be changed into a Powers section. Instead of a Race section saying that Cang Du is a Quincy of asian descent, or that Zommari is an Arrancar of african descent, it could say that Cang Du is a Soul with Quincy powers, and that Zommari is a Hollow with Shinigami powers.

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    • What I meant by "race" is that Quincy are a subsection of the Human race because of their bloodlines - something they cannot change. Shinigami, meanwhile, choose to become Shinigami, and it's a job.

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    • He is all of the above because his Quincy and Hollow powers r from his mother and soul reaper powers from his father

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    • Except, once again, he is not dead, nor is he a full-on Hollow. As I explained, he has Quincy, Shinigami, and Hollow powers, but Shinigami is a profession and he's not part-Hollow, meaning he's just part-Quincy.

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    • Yea cause Ichigo first didn't get his soul reaper powers until he met Rukia. But does that also mean that Zangetsu is from Isshin and Masaki because Zangetsu is Ichigo's Zanpakuto spirit, inner hollow, and Quincy powers. And does that make Ichigo a visored

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    • Darksupersaiyansonic wrote: Yea cause Ichigo first didn't get his soul reaper powers until he met Rukia. But does that also mean that Zangetsu is from Isshin and Masaki because Zangetsu is Ichigo's Zanpakuto spirit, inner hollow, and Quincy powers. And does that make Ichigo a visored

      This entire discussion is going wild, but then again, I suppose a discussion like this is kind of meant to explore every possible option. Ichigo was considered a Visored, but he isn't considered one anymore since, as far as anyone can tell, his Hollow powers are gone.

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    • Then what about Karin and Yuzu wouldn't they have soul reaper or Quincy powers

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    • They haven't displayed any, and for all we know they were born without powers because Ichigo got all of them or something.

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    • He is a hybrid. "Zengetsu" fooled him into believing that he was his actual Zanpakto when in fact he is just Ichigo's Quincy powers while Hollow Ichigo is the real Zengetsu. Though you could say they both are Zengetsu

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