It is debatable say this character was or not Canon. But I still think it's worth keeping its page.
It is debatable say this character was or not Canon. But I still think it's worth keeping its page.
A little late but let me just weigh in here. The problem with Spirits are Forever With You is that there's no complete translation.
Everything on this wiki, according to the rules, must be properly referenced. Because of a debacle a number of years ago between Ju-Ni scans and Bleach Asylum, the Spirits translation was never finished. As such, we don't have anything to properly point to when adding references so people can see that the information added is accurate. And so, we've left stuff for it off the wiki at the risk of being wrong or incomplete.
Well i must say as someone that comes to this wiki to read information on things i might have missed or do not have access to; its sort of a let down that we don't add information from the Novels. I know you said its just this one, but I cant locate any information for any novel.
No other wiki does this.
If you find a complete, accurate translation of the novel which enables you to use accurate, correct references feel free to develop the article for the Novel. But these references are paramount and important to the integrity of the Wiki. If the article is not up to standards then it won't belong here.
If other Wikis add articles without proper translations then that is their inaccurate prerogative.
I may have actually found one. If i find full translations of the books I will pass them to you SunXia to see what you think. Now, is there any statement if the novels are "canon" in Kubo's eyes? Has he said they are part of his story or not?
The best person to pass them on to would be Schiffy. I'm not good on the translation side and he would be able to identify proper reliable sources. There doesn't have to be a statement from Kubo, we considered Kubo's work canon and everything else secondary. That has always been or policies. That novel wasn't written by Kubo. We are still discussing implementing other media going forward but as stated we need the articles to be properly referenced in accordance to how our articles are properly referenced.
I literally just realized all of this is already on the Bleach/Shonen Jump + app...any of the info within the book (its being split into two) is readily available on there. I am not translator, but if this wiki has one it should be there job to get the app and get the info...
J spence, please be more respectful. This wiki, like all others, is volunteer run by people who have lives outside of the wiki and people should not go around telling others that it is their job to do anything in the way you just did. People do things as and when they have the time and energy to do them, and when they can find the sources. You should also know that there is a difference between translating a phrase or page and translating an entire book, which will obviously require a much large commitment of time, so please be patient and respectful to those that might undertake such a task rather than telling any volunteer what their job is. Thank you.
J spencer93 wrote: I may have actually found one. If i find full translations of the books I will pass them to you SunXia to see what you think. Now, is there any statement if the novels are "canon" in Kubo's eyes? Has he said they are part of his story or not?
Kubo's named as having co-written and illustrated We Do Knot Always Love You and Can't Fear Your Own World, so that alone seems to indicate that he considers them canon.
This discussion gives me flashbacks of Naruto wiki's similar debate regarding the publication of light novels not (solely) written by Kishimoto and whether to consider them canon - although the acceptance of them was helped by the fact that the ongoing anime ended up adapting some of them.
I'd be, at minimum, open to a debate about considering Knot and Fear canon. I can understand and agree with some of the arguments in favor, and would love input from both my fellow moderators and the users as a whole. I'll even support a (respectful) debate for Spirits, although I'm against considering it canon personally.
That said, I'm not against referencing any of them, canon or no, on the wiki. How they are going to be referenced here also needs to be discussed, perhaps both internally and externally. It also depends on translation, which like I said we do not seem to be getting for Spirits, like, ever.